JG - Wondering What to Choose 1964
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DateDescetree idRtNotesFlawsdgf
xx/xx/64Palo Alto, CA, Boar's Head
 Black Mountain Boys: SBD->Cassette->CDR->TAE->SHN (partial)24073   ***
xx/xx/64Wildwood Boys
 Wildwood Boys: MA? (Stage Mic?) > C > CDR > PCM > SHN. Note filenames are not per etree convention.17838B-some of this is same as 2/23/63 4501 and all of this is on pre-warlocks comp in fuller better sound; this is most muffled and noise reduced of the 3 versions and incomplete; the last 4 tracks are also on pre-warlocks comp in fuller better sound;with more hiss while 17838 is muffled with noise reduction ***
xx/xx/64Palo Alto, CA, Boar's Head
 Black Mountain Boys: flac/fix of35145 this is close eac match on t1 to 24073 with same digital flaws ***
xx/xx/64Palo Alto, CA
 wildwood boys, 64-xx-xx, fm->cassette->cdr->tae->shn; 01 Banter, 02 Jerry's Breakdown, 03 Banter, 04 Standing in the Need of Prayer, 05 Banter, 06 Muleskinner Blues, 07 Banter, 08 Satisfied with My Gal, 09 Banter, 10 The Rub, Jerry Garcia - Banjo, David Nelson - Guitar, Norman - Bass, ??, with Pig Pen and Peter Albin  this is exact eac match on t1 and t2 to terrapinstation 17838  
xx/xx/64Palo Alto, CA, Boar's Head
 black mountain boys, xx-xx-64 (partial), sbd->cassette->cdr->tae->shn, 01 two little boys, 02 banter, 03 salty dog blues, 04 banter, 05 rosalie mcfall, sector boundaries repaired and seek tables appended - wagner 12/02/02    ***
2/19/64Unknown, Unknown, Unknown
 sdb>Mreel>???>Dat>CD, any info help send to usalai@nycap.rr.com and or jerrylives2000@aol.com, ripped by Mike Lai and seeded to etree jan 28, 2001 via jerrylives2000.etree.org, filler 2-94 garcia, grisman and rice: Shady groove studio sessions12686B  ***
3/6/64Top Of The Tangent, Palo Alto, CA
 Black Mountain Boys: SBD->Cassette->CDR->TAE->SHN via David Backus and Wagner17914 has low levels; seems to be a later version of shnid=20752; pre-warlocks comp has similar sound to this ***
 black mountain boys, sbd->cassette->cdr->tae->shn, sector boundaries corrected and seek tables appended - wagner 12/02;, + 3/7/64, sbd->cassette->cdr->tae->shn, sector boundaries repaired and seek tables appended - wagner 12-02-02, + palo alto, ca, boar's head, xx-xx-64 (partial), sbd->cassette->cdr->tae->shn, sector boundaries repaired and seek tables appended - wagner 12-02-02 (includes shndbid=50873 and shndbid=151145); 01 Instrumental, 02 Katie Mine (??), 03 Intros, 04 Homestead on the Farm, 05 Banter, 06 Bare Foot Nellie, 07 Banter, 08 She's More to Be Pitied than Scolded, 09 Tuning, 10 They Can Lock Up Me Up For Loving You, 11 The Hand of the Lord, 12 Banter, 13 Who'll Sing for Me, 14 Darling Aller Lee, Jerry Garcia - Banjo, Eric Thompson - Guitar, David Nelson - Mandolin, Jim Beemis - Bass, + 3/7/64 01 Happy Birthday, 02, 03 Darling Aller Lee, 04 Tuning, 05 Ocean of Diamonds, + xx-xx-64 01 Two Little Boys, 02 Banter, 03 Salty Dog Blues, 04 Banter, 05 Rosalie McFall  matches st5 to shnid=17914 and is missing 3/7/64 portion ***
3/7/64The Tangent, Palo Alto, CA
 Black Mountain Boys, partial set: SBD-> Cassette -> CDR -> TAE -> SHN.20752B  ***
 Black Mountain Boys: fix/flac of35142 20752 is a close eac match on t1 to 35142 ***
 127499 bmb set2 aud flat droncit, aud mr > ? > cass, jerry garcia - banjo, sandy rothman - guitar, david nelson - mandolin, robert hunter (jim beamas) - bass, transferred at 24-bit, 96khz and edited by dan mcdonald (droncit@yahoo.com). i got this on cassette in the, mid-1990s from someone whom i've forgotten the name of. he wrote in very tiny letters on purple post-it, notes. if you are that person, please get in touch., transferred using the flat transfer method, using my converted nakamichi bx1. correct curve applied through dc9 (alpha)., no noise reduction. this recording is in dual-channel mono. gain-normalized to -1.0 db. converted to 16/44.1, using triple precision and triangular dithering. it's a little hissy, but not bad. there was a gap between, sourwood mountain and if i lose, so songs could be missing., __________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________, --set 2--, 201 - intro, 202 - sourwood mountain**, 203 - if i lose, 204 - homestead on the farm, 205 - pig in a pen, 206 - once more, 207 - stoney creek, 208 - two little boys, 209 - salty dog, 210 - rosalie mcfall, 211 - teardrops in my eyes, 212 - new river train, 213 - love please come home***, 214 - make me a pallet on your floor, 215 - john hardy outro//, **listed on my tape as sawwood mountain, but it sounds like a modification of sourwood mountain to me., ***listed on my tape as please come home, __________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________, dan's tape and the black mountain boys:, this tape has been in circulation for years, but this is the first time it has been digitized and circulated., the black mountain boys formed in the fall of 1963. the original line up included eric thompson on guitar., according to a recent aricle by eric, he states that he left for a stint on the east coast early in 1964., eric was replaced by sandy rothman. in a few periods of banter on dan's tape you can hear jerry/david, referring to sandy. with this information we know this tape was recorded after eric left in 1964., in another recent article, sandy tells of he and jerry going on a road trip in the spring and early summer of '64, visiting various notable bluegrass artists. he may have been at the union grove fiddler's convention over easter, weekend to at least listen to doc watson. a short time later he met david grisman at a bill monore show in, pennsylvania. jerry's ultimate goal was to be hired to play in bill monroe's band. i guess we should say, fortunately that didn't work out and after the letdown the pair wound their way back west. sandy states that upon their, return to the bay area in the summer, the bluegrass scene had shifted and jerry may have been unable to hook up with, accomplished players and form a new band.then again not being able to land job with monroe, maybe he was ready to, move on. it is also at this point that jerry reconnected with bob and met pigpen. and it wasn't long after they, formed mother mccrees uptown jug champions. this little bit of history forces us to conclude dan's tape had to have, been recorded during the late winter of 1964., to this point there have been three fragments of shows performed by the black mountain boys in general circulation., the first (17914) is dated 3/06/64. this source seems to include the entire first set of a show. however, eric, thompson is on guitar. sandy clearly has stated that he and eric did not play together in the band. therefore, it is almost certain this source should be dated in late 63 to very early in 64., a second undated source from 1964 (35145) includes 4 tracks, 3 songs and some banter. this is a portion of the, same recording as is on dan's tape. the recording on this source is of poorer quality than dan's and at this point, we can religate it to the dustbin., the third source (35142) is dated 3/07/64. there is nothing in the banter to suggest who is on guitar, but if, you compare sandy's voice on homestead on the farm from dan's tape with the lead vocalist on nine pound hammer, from this source, there is little doubt that it is sandy singing. while this source probably was recorded at, the 3/7 show, there is nothing in the listening that can serve to confrim that. howeve, we do know that this, recording was pulled from the middle of a set and does not include any material found on dan's tape. the recording, is sonically similar to dan's and may well be from the same master. wihout evidence to the contrary, i think, the listed 3/7 date is correct., the songlist is as follows:, 01 ..//..//happy birthday (noah?)//, 02 nine pound hammer, 03 darling aller lee, 04 tuning, 05 ocean of diamonds//, dan's tape dated 3/07/64 starts with a minute and a half of stage banter/tuning followed by a short selection of, sourwood mountain. dan states that there was a gap between sourwood mountain and the third track, if i lose. from, the banter at the beginning of the tape, it is clear the intial banter/tuning > sourwood mountain is the, beginning of a second set.the band then introduces themselves in a joking manner in the banter following if i lose., makes sense they may reintoduce themsleves in this manner for the second set. what follows on dan's tape goes, through to the end of the set where jerry states they will be back in 20 minutes. that would have to be a third set., track listings for the show put the songs from the circulating 3/7 show (35142) after the songs on dan's 3/7 tape., i can find no evidence to support or dispute these listings. if the published track listings are accurate, that, would mean these songs are from the third set., maybe 50 years old, but the sound is remarkable!, enjoy!, bill proctor, __________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________, tagging notes:, show information is embedded within the header of each flac file., it will display on any player capable of directly playing flac, files. if converted to wav during processing, all tags will be, stripped, however audio data will remain unaffected. if you must, transcode to a lossy format, do so directly flac > lossy., use ffp to validate audio integrity., md5 values will change if tagging is altered., b. proctor 3/28/2014127499B  ***
 black mountain boys, sbd->cassette->cdr->tae->shn, 01 happy birthday, 02, 03 darling aller lee, 04 tuning, 05 ocean of diamonds, sector boundaries repaired and seek tables appended - wagner 12/02/02     
4/14/64Unknown, Unknown, CA
 Banjo Lesson: ambient reel to reel recording by unknown student > ? > 7 1/2 ips reel > Matt Smith [Akai GX-625 > Apogee Mini Me (24/96) > Apogee Mini Dac (monitoring/mastering > Wavelab 5.0 (dithered to 20/44))] > CD; CD > EAC (tracking and master92079   ***
 Pitch corrected version of100020C100020 is sped up over 92079 ***
7/xx/64The Tangent,Palo Alto,CA
 Mother McCree's Uptown Jug Champions: Master Tape > Rosoft Audio Tools > CD > EAC > WAV > SHN.12696  This source has three shnids: 12622, 12696, and 13186.***
7/xx/64Mother McCree's Uptown Jug Champions
 Mother McCree's Uptown Jug Champions$   ***